Autonomous Cars and Trucks and Their Impact – Pontiac Solstice Forum

I must say, you opened my mind to possibilities that I didn’t even know were a thing. You’re definitely more in the know when it comes to these things than myself; with that being said will these autonomous cars be electric? I’ll be completely honest, aside from knowing that some of the Tesla cars are WICKED fast, I don’t know much more beyond that about the electric cars. Is there really enough of the rare earth materials needed for batteries available for the entire world to make the switch? A co-worker has heavily invested in many of these materials on the stock market and I’ve been thinking that I should jump on the band wagon too?If it takes you 5-15 minutes to walk to your car, pay for parking, and head out, then repeat the process at the other end of your trip, what is the difference?

He mentioned "mass autonomous transit" so I don’t know if he is thinking that it would work like a bus or a taxi, or if mass just refers to widespread use. Either way, within the limits that autonomous cars are likely to be used, and he is correct about city use being the first application, you will have the freedom to go where and when you want.

Electric? Absolutely. Even non-autonomous cars are moving toward electric, with every major manufacturer rolling out a range of electric models. Once people get over the mistaken "need" for unlimited range they will realize that electric gives better performance, economy, and efficiency. Something to keep in mind is that the more electric cars there are on the road, the less gasoline is likely to cost, at least until the suppliers cut back on production to tighten up the supply.

JohnWr, Am I in the twilight zone? What you’re talking about is 50 years from now. I clearly said we are not there yet. There is a wave of change coming and I was just trying to state many will not want to give up their right to drive on their own, when they want, without anyone’s permission; kinda like Red Barchetta. By your description, you give up your rights to the system with a whimper. You can’t seriously think it’s that simple. Agreed the mass will fall into place over time, but there will be a hard transition.

I beg to differ on the trucker statement. There are 10’s of thousands of truckers out there who will be displaced by this over time. Granted it may be first through attrition, but eventually all truckers will be displaced along with local delivery persons… This is Orsen Wells crap… And corporations are already working on "You want fry’s with that’ at your local fast food joint.

JohnWR a lot of people are going to be displaced by the automation of society. The big question is what’s the safe bet to hold a job for the underlings….There is a large step between the widespread use of autonomous vehicles and a prohibition on driving. I’m not certain that the US will ever see a complete prohibition, but it could happen eventually. What I see happening is, as you stated, autonomous vehicles becoming widespread in cities and the immediate suburbs for those who commute into the city. Parking and tolls are already ridiculously expensive in a lot of areas, and that will simply get worse as landowners realize that there are more profitable uses for their property than parking.

"Autonomous Cars and Trucks and Their Impact" – impact being the operative word here. Unless you can segregate autonomous vehicles from those operated by humans, bicyclists, and pedestrians, there will be impacts, and not in a good way. There will always be ‘trolls’ among the humans, and if they find a way to interfere with these vehicles, they will. Also, will an autonomous vehicle recognize unusual circumstances, like kids playing basketball in a driveway, and prepare for them? I don’t think so.Actually contrary to your belief….yes, an AEV WILL "learn" these things. It was just announced last week in the AEV research world that there is a new processor that is in development. It will go from 30M flip-flop processors, which currently isn’t fast enough to "learn" on it’s own, to 120M, thus enabling "true" AI for a vehicle to "learn" from its interactions. Thus enabling it to make a decision from past experience quicker then you or I can blink. While these new processors still won’t be fast enough, it will help in future development of even faster processors.

I took this theory one step further and said that when you leave work at night, you will get in an AEV with maybe 7 other people. It will take you 5 miles where 4 of you will get into another waiting vehicle. That one will take you another 5 miles where the 4 of you will all get in seprate waiting AEVs to take you to your home. It will take you less time then it currently does as there will be no more lights at intersections, instead each vehicle will know where the others are and speed through the intersection, narrowly missing other vehicles. In fact, my 25 minute drive in to work in the morning, might only take 10 minutes. And my ride home instead of taking 45 minutes would take 15 minutes, even changing cars 3 times. All the while, these AEVs will have a 998% utilization rate. This is going to create different issues for the current suppliers. Tires for instance will have to last much longer. Upholstery will need to be much tougher and still have the strength of public transportation seats. Furthermore, suspensions will need to also last a lot longer. Suppliers that provide fuel pumps for instance will have to find something else to produce for the OEs or they will just simply go away.